so if ive got this right hes criticising Futurama for being to funny - well if thats a crime plead guilty all the way

Ps you cant complain about an opinion - its just that an opinion and dont you have that stupid "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" thing that allows you to air an opinion

He's probably just upset, because there isn't a 'regular family unit' at the center of the series.

hopie: I didn't say anything about having him disallowed to write his opinion. I wrote that giving them *your* opinion might be nice. Freedom of speech and such is on our site, too.

Generally, I think he is just ill-informed and didn't actually watch too many episodes. His words look a bit misplaced when you look at Jurassic Bark, Time Keeps on Slipping, Godfellas, Leela's Homeworld and the like and then look at the kind of "endless gags" The Simpsons is doing lately.

Everyone at NY Post is full of crap, anyway. Haven't you read their "How dare the French forget" article?
Such scumbags!

I once wrote to the NY Post about an extremely shitty review they gave of a particular album. The review basically said the album was crap, without any actual elaboration on why the writer found this to be the case. Anyway, I sent an extremely scathing letter to them about it, and to my surprise, it was printed!

So??? He doesn't like FUTURAMA, I presume... not much about the DVD set there...

Oh... and the POST was right about the French...

Please leave the French out of this. If you want to discuss these matters with Futurama fans, use the off-topic board on peelified.com.

If he doesn't like Futurama, that's fine. But as an opinion building person (editorial writer), he should at least find good reasons for that. The ones he cited seem misplaced quite some. An opinion is only as good as the basement it stands on.

Well, I wrote him a couple of lines. Damn right, I want whomever to know this guy is 'not too smart'. Also the French suck.

Here is what i wrote, but im not to grand in writing english, but i've tried... if there is some US nationalists reading this, just stop right now, *cause im critizising yr goverment. this may not be a good mail, but i tried:

Part I

I've just read yr article in the new york post. it's easy to see you have not seen the show that much... it's a very intelligent satire of superb quality. the animation, the writing, the music, and all put together is amazing. don't bash something you don't now nothing about... ignorant is what it is. it's not the type show the spread the typical amarican moral (which makes my sick by the way). don't you see how good the show is? this is one of the good things coming from the US. you live only in ignorance. your life is so great...

I think he's got his facts mixed up, when in fact it's The Simpsons that have been devolving into a series of endless gags since Futurama started airing.

Isn't the New York Post owned by Murdoch = FOX.

In New York, the Post is considered to be fit for lining bird cages and wrapping fish, and that's pretty much it. Don't take them seriously.

Bon jour! I sank ze, how you say, Futurama is un tres funny show and oui, je suis French. Well, not zat "War is ze H Ward" show. Ze Ballz, zey owe us many francs, so I did not sink zat was funny to make war on zem. But all ze ozers... ooo la la, tres funny, tres funny indeed!

Dropped him a couple of lines too, that's not a comparison a prof. journalist should make with those stupid excuses about family

Ah! Murdoch owns New York Post? That makes a lot of sense due to the negatively towards Futurama from Fox since the show begin. I smell a fithy diseased rat and not the rats you see on tv based shows in New York City.

Endless gags? Well, if you go by the first season, that notion doesn't hold up that well. But if you look at the whole series, it's just ridiculous to say such a thing. "Leela's Homeworld" doesn't exactly end with a series of belly laughs. "Time Keeps On Slippin'" as well. Fry placing his 7 leaf clover back in his nephew's grave ain't no barrage of yuks either (even though it comes right after Bender's "want me to smack up the corpse a little?" line)In short, when it comes to reviews, there's always an ignorant comment to be found. Who ever thought publishing opinions on artistic creations was a good idea is the biggest gag of all. Just not a funny one...

I hate to say, but I can see where this guy's coming from. I didn't think Season 1 was the best; it was very funny, but for the most part emotionally empty. I'd easily have put the Simpsons ahead of it.

Also, he's reviewing the Season 1 DVDs, so why should he be watching "Leela's Homeworld" or "Time Keeps on Slipping"?

Having said that, I wouldn't take much stock in this "article". The guy's obviously trying to cram as many DVDs into as little column space as possible, which has left him no room for any kind of analysis. The end result is he sounds like an eight year old's book report.

Well this show isnt for the majority its for intelligence people who appreciates humor. If you dont like it you are missing one of those and probably both. Why I would care if some dude who cant even base his opinions on facts, well he writes to crappy news paper. At least he has a job even if he might not fill the requirements.

The main thing that seperates futurama from the simpsons IS the emotional stuff. Just because the simpsons is based around a family, doesnt make it "wholesome" or anything. Its a shame the majority take mainstream media as fact rather than usuaully unresearched opinion.

Also, everyones comments about "the french" (not, its leaders or the UN, whom Mr Bush, and Mr Blair disrespect) is both prejudice and/or racism. Next you'll all be saying people from asia or with turbans are all terrorists...
Just because I personally consider Mr Bush a megalomaniac, doesnt mean I think all americans are obsessed with greed and power

So a dim-wit journalist (whose brain probably degenerated together with the quality in the Simpsons) wrote a bad comment about Futurama in a crappy newspaper. Big deal! Personnaly newspapers are the last thing I go check when I want the review of something, especially movies. Anybody can watch the show and see that this article is all bullsh*t. Didn't Groening himself say that directly comparing Futurama with the Simpsons wasn't a wise thing to do?

And as for the anti-French comments; it's your right to hate them if you want to but keep your opinion to yourself or go discuss that elsewhere. If you can read, this site is called Futurama not French-o-rama.

The New York Post is owned by FOX.

This whole review is bogus. Matt and Fox haven't gotten along lately, and this is the newest manifestation.

Fred: "I hate to say, but I can see where this guy's coming from. I didn't think Season 1 was the best; it was very funny, but for the most part emotionally empty. I'd easily have put the Simpsons ahead of it."

Except, the choice of word clearly indicates the reporter is talking about the two shows as a whole. He doesn't write "Futurama, season 1" he write "Futurama" [have always stood in the shadow of The Simpsons, and rightly so!].

He's not comparing season, he's comparing one season of Futurama (I bet he only saw SP3K) to the entire run of Simpsons, and make the blanket statement that the entire show is inferior to Simpsons. That makes him a dimwit in my eyes.

I sent a letter to the e-mail address in which I started off saying that Glitz should have been able to support his statements, then went on to point out that I knew about Murdoch's ownership of the Post and I felt that they had a vested interest in giving the DVDs a bad review. I made sure to bring up that FOX promotes tripe like "Married by America" and "Glutton Bowl" but gives Futurama the shaft, and concluded by saying that the old bits on SNL where a cast member would show actual Post headlines in a sarcastic "Salute to Journalism", point being that anything Murdoch touches becomes cheap and worthless.

What's with all the politics, I thought we were writing about Futurama. Anyhoo, Mr. Glitz has no idea what he's talking about. Viva la Futurama!

I just emailed my opinion of the review, and pointed out the awards that the writing team was won.

Hopefully my english charms will go some way... :)

The NYPost may be owned by the same comglomerate that owns FOX but that hardly means that someone on the Post reviews every article to maintain some sort of "Fox editorial line." If the reviewer disliked the DVD he's doing on his own.

Criticizing any sitcom for being an endless series of gags is dangerous work because most every sitcom aswers to that description. Even classics like "I Love Lucy" are laden with mechincal gags and situations.

Futurama doesn't have a lot of warm-fuzzy emotions, it's probably the darknest sitcom to ever last four seasons but when you see Leela wanting to join the army because her friends have a tendency to die when she's not around you know that within those dried-out crusts of humanity still beats a warm heart. Afterall Bender still has a lot of blood to pump out of his basement.

Brian Brown
beb01@sprynet.com

the simpsons characters are hardly ever funny or hart warming at all. Futurama actauly has a show that's funny and can be hart warming too ! that shows been genius.

That stupid journalist is a f***ing moron. Ok, maybe he doesn't like Futurama. But he didn't write down the reasons why. I bet FOX or that damn Murdoch bastard is bribing him to write that Futurama sucks. Who the f*** do they think they are? The Almighty? I'm from New York and I think the NYPost is a bundle of crap.

can some1 explain this whole thing to me again? I'm serious; I don't understand english that well.(And no, I am not a French.)

Yes, Futurama is indeed a dark, dark show. Maybe that's why it's funny. Or maybe it's cuz Matt Groening created it. Matt Groening was actually going to name it "Doomsville" originally, but he thought that it sounded waaaaaaaaaaaay too dark for a
CARTOON SITCOM FROM THE CREATOR OF THE SIMPSONS.

And by the way, a PERSONAL list of emotional (or semi-emotional) episodes:

A Flight To Remember
I Second That Emotion
Time Keeps On Slippin'
Leela's Homeworld
A Leela Of Her Own (hey, the ENDING'S really emotional!)
Love And Rocket
Jurassic Bark
Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles (sorta)

Satisfied now?

Futurama isn't a dark show. Not at all! Futurama is a way~~~~~~~~~~~~better show than The Simpsons.(no offense, Ultra Simpsons fans)Actually, it's the most incredible show on Earth!

I know absolutely nothing about the NYP but reviewers in general are not worth their salaries.They review from a subjective,personal point of view so should carry no weight with the individual. If he doesn't like F'rama,tough. On a personal p.o.v.we recently aired Jurassic Bark and i thought i was never going to get rid of the lump in my throat, i have refused to watch it again for fear of embarrassing my kids with tears. I live in Northern Ireland and i have had Season 1 since last June and season 2 since Xmas(dvd)Season 3 due in time for Fathers Day (presents ordered -oh my!!)

Doomsville? I really don't think Futurama's dark. I mean, it's no love-fest, but it's definitely on the emotional side. Shows can't have depth without emotion, anyway, and without depth, you've got nothing. Oh, and that guy's an idiot all the way.

I spent $30 on Futurama season 1 DVD and I cant wait till season 2 come out. I will not spend $5 on the Simpsons DVD even though I am also a SImpson's fan. There is not one show that I am so emotionally attached to than Futurama.

I think that Futurama has been consistantly stronger than the Simpsons for a while. Morbo has depth. That guy just didn't get it. I don't even make an effort to really watch the Simpsons. That reporter had no idea what he was talking about.
And I'm really farking glad that farking football season is over we can see some of season 5 here in Houston!

The last time I can compare the Simpsons to the level of Futurama was, Season two of the Simpsons, and that was a long time ago.