btw it's around minute 18:00

al gore, the true president.. i'm sure if the bush conspiracy hadnt stolen the presidency he would have done a favor for futurama and kept it on the air.

who wouldnt watch futurama if it had the PRESIDENT on it?

To mark: It probably still wouldn't be on if Al Gore was the President. Bcuz 1 He doesn't have much (if any) power at Fox and 2, bcuz Fox set Futurama at the time where almost no matter what it would die sooner or later.

Al Gore should watch what he says. He had some controversial ties to a major petrolium company when he (and the first ever impeached president, Bill Clinton) was in office. Why, Mr. Gore, if you cared about the enviroment so much did you not push for the Kyoto treaty when you were vice president? Because it only hurts the economy and does little to protect the environment if anything. Moveon.org is an extremely partison vocal group of anti-american idiots. Some of the global schwarming people are now begining to doubt the existance of it. Hmmmm, makes one wonder. Hey Gorey, you lost the election, you should move on. Sore Loserman.

Actually, Clinton was the second impeached president. Andrew Johnson was the first.

I shudder when I think about what life would be like with Al Gore as president. No tax cuts. Continued economic decline (began in late 2000). Saddam would still be in power. And we'd all be driving the Toyota Prius.

Global warming may be real, but it's just nature's cycle. There is no real evidence that man is causing it. And, frankly, I can see an upside to it.

We'd be better off with Gore as president than Bush 2.0. We wouldn't have a pointless war against a country that hasn't been a threat for years, we'd still have our fourth amendment rights, we wouldn't have a presidential administration dedicated to raping the environment for the sake of big business, and a balanced federal budget.

There is evidence that man is causing global warming, and there is no upside to it. At the very least we should be doing everything we can to ensure that we aren't adding to the problem.

its hard to prove that man has done anything to contribute to a global warming... how old are the climate models that we have? a couple hundred yrs old? and how old is the earth? over 6 billion yrs old. its like the stock market... if you look at the growth or decline in one stock just on one particular day it may look like its really volitile but if you look at the growth or decline over the entire life of the stock the volitile portion you saw may just be a blip or part of a cycle... in short we dont have a broad enough spectrum to look at in terms of global climate

Both sides are effed up, They all have ties to Big buisness, all of them. It's a natural part of politics, It has been and most likely the way it will be. Getting money from special intrest group and coprorations are the same thing. All we can do educate ourselves. Bush did thing very right and very very wrong. Let not everyone forget Al gore was the vice president of the first administartion to have regiem change as a Policy.
He was vice-president when we aimlessly(not refuring to the acuracy of the bombs but the pointlessness of the campaign. I'm not sure whats worse. Having to deal with both Saddam and America Bobmbing or Having Saddam gone No more us bombing But Fear from your own People bombing themselves. Now Lets get back to where NIxons Head is The President of the World. I don't feel earth should have attacked that defensless planet of Balls........We have all seen too many bodybags and ballsacks!

Hey Ted,

You should investigate beyond the headlines that come up when you search Google for 'impeached presidents'. According to Harpers Weekly, May 30, 1868, the senate voted Johnson not to be impeached. He was acquited and allowed to remove Secretary Stanton and was not removed from office. Clinton, however, was impeached. He was the first president in American history to be impeached. Grand jury purjury and obstruction of justice. 1999. Do some research since you don't know.

Actually, ScottO YOU are wrong. Impeachment is the act of bringing a President to trial , regardless of that trial's outcome. Johnson WAS impeached, therefore Clinton was the Second American President to be impeached.

Hey ScottO

I do know.

From the official White House website, under the entry for Johnson, Andrew: President 1865-1869.

"In March 1867, the Radicals effected their own plan of Reconstruction, again placing southern states under military rule. They passed laws placing restrictions upon the President. When Johnson allegedly violated one of these, the Tenure of Office Act, by dismissing Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton, the House voted eleven articles of impeachment against him. He was tried by the Senate in the spring of 1868 and acquitted by one vote."

(full link:

Thanks, Beebos.

And to further my point, under the entry for Clinton (Blythe IV), William Jefferson (1993-2000):

"In 1998, as a result of issues surrounding personal indiscretions with a young woman White House intern, Clinton was the second U.S. president to be impeached by the House of Representatives."

The above was also taken from the offical White House website.

I kinda wanted to stay away from this, but what the heck :P Me not being American at least protects me from being called "unamerican".

Scott in #4: "Moveon.org is an extremely partison vocal group ..."
I never understood why Americans regard partisanship as bad and never have I seen it so distinct in other democracies. A party is meant to reflect a certain collective of ideas. Groups supporting these ideas in contrast to sometimes orthogonal ideas of other parties are *meant* to be partisan.
Now, I dislike the average conservative group as the next guy dislikes moveon. But I dislike them for their ideas, not for their working towards them. That's how democracy works.

blahness in #8: Sticking to your analogy of the stock market for the limited data available: The volatility of the day can only be survived if you don't have to cash in on your stocks at the lows (due to having other assets to live off in the meantime). With the temperature, we do have to actually realize these losses on a daily basis. We can't just weather the storm and say "well, but it will be good in 10,000 years again, most likely." In addition, science does have enough data to project most probable settings for a period long enough to be either vital or fatal in many regards. I don't really know any non-US group suggesting otherwise and even there it's hardly the scientists doing the talk back. The whole idea of doing predictive models is to act on the basis of what is our best scientific knowledge.

it's nice that futurama is being used in the political world but it sux a$$ that Al Gore had to be the first one to do it.

1. global warming is a myth. We're freezing here in Taxachusetts
2. Al Gore is an idiot and a liar
3. Futurama rocks though, so at least he has good taste

Well, I guess I will have to concede to the White House web site. I am a man. Although the facts are still unclear.

Even still, this is not to bring attention away from the fact that they were criminals and Clinton was impeached. His 'legacy' was disgraced because he couldn't keep it in his pants. He did more harm to this country than any other evil man could ever hope to do. They are both a black mark on the face of this country and Gore is the only thing wrong with Futurama. Actually, that's not entirely true, 'Raging Bender', 'A Bicyclops Built For Two', 'Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love' and some others were wrong, too.

Kimberly, I am in love with you!

From a fellow Taxachuseian.

This is a site for Futurama-related news, not amateur political soapboxing. The update doesn't even have anything to do with Clinton. If you feel the need to share your opinions on our former president's wang or whatever, take it to PEEL.

ScottO

Facts, smacts. I just changed the outcome by measuring.

Bubba was and still is a liar. His wife isn't any better. Comes originally from my neck of the woods, and then ditches her Cubbies for the Yankees when she goes to NY. NY can keep her for all I care.

Though I disagree on the episodes you listed. They had their moments. Now 'My Three Suns' and 'That's Lobstertainment', on the other hand...

ScottO, before getting up on your soapbox why don't you do the adequate research. As stated by another the act of impeachment is an act by the House of Representatives that allows the President (in this case) to be tried by the Senate. No President has ever been convicted by the Senate and therefore no President has ever been thrown from office. Two Presidents have been impeached and one (Nixon) resigned just before he would have been impeached.

Per global warming and the #8 post. Sure we only have a couple of hundred years of hard statistics regarding the weather. But geologists can determine the climate by analyzing rocks from different periods throughout the earth's existence. So we do have something to compare to. Now I'm not saying it proves anything, but we do have data to analyze.

Finally, #16. Just because it's cold wherever the hell you are doesn't prove one thing about global warming not existing. It's stupid comments like yours that make me fear for our collective future.

Actually, we have about one hundred thousand years of atmospheric records. Its called the artic ice cap. Atmospheric gases are trapped in the ice. The farther down you go in the ice, the further back in time you go.

People who deny global warming are the most selfish of all, because theey don't want to cut back on their obsene use of fossil fuels.

They are also ignorant, because they think they know more the scientists who spend their lives studying the climate.

Those who think Clinton was a bigger liar than Bush are simply brain dead.

I never trust a man who talks about global warming when it's less than 0 degrees outside.

Michael Crichton gave two great speeches about global warming/enviromentalism.





He's a lot smarter (and more open minded) than Al Gore.

"Let's think back to people in 1900 in, say, New York. If they worried about people in 2000, what would they worry about? Probably: Where would people get enough horses? And what would they do about all the horseshit? Horse pollution was bad in 1900, think how much worse it would be a century later, with so many more people riding horses?"

He also criticizes scientists who claim consensus among scientists as justification for their beliefs, since consensus doesn't make you right, but makes you secure in being wrong. Good stuff.

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Argh! This site needs a "preview" option.


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If these links don't show up, anyone interested can go to crichton-official.com, and look for the speeches titled Aliens Cause Global Warming and Remarks to the Commonwealth Club.

One more quick comment: The Crichton speeches that I (tried to) link to are not just right-wing rants, like I made them sound like. If your a left-wing Michael Crichton fan, I don't think these speeches will make you like him any less. Basically, what Crichton calls for is for science to be depoliticized.

By the way, I don't get why you leftists like Al Gore so much. He and his wife are as socially authoritarian as Jerry Falwell. "Tipper Gore" is synonymous with censorship. I consider myself right-leaning, but I'll take Nader over Gore any day. At least Nader is fairly libertarian on social issues. Gore's authoritarian across the board.

Blah, Blah, Blah

In the parrellel universe, Al Gore is president. Futurama is still running strong (king of the hill got axed, finally). It is exeedingly warm in central park as former presidential hopefull and Harvard College dropout, G. W. Bush, gives a speech on the 1966 VW bugs' air cooled engine. Saddam Hussien just donated $5 million to the United Negro College fund. And the Vikings won the last 3 superbowls.

You don't have to like how life turned out... the great thing is you have the freedom to whine, gripe, and play what-if-consipracy jeopardy all day in the great land of liberty. Don't like religon? Move to Albainia. Hate the 2-party system? Move to China. Can't stand global warming? Move to Iceland. Either way you'll miss out on great Futurama episodes, whatever your beliefs. So don't gimme this "life ain't fair cause my political action ranger didn't win" crap. Life today ain't so bad that you're gunna ditch America for some idealistic greener pasture. Think you can fight city hall? Then run for office and change something for Pete's sake, don't just cry out loud.

Manifestos and soapboxes aside, Al Gore and Steven Hawking (both outside longshots for comic relief) are hilarious givin the context and idiom of their characters in Futurama. And there will be a glorious day sometime in the future when the Lombardi comes to Minneapolis.

Michael Crichton? Har! Most of his early books--I don't bother with the later ones--have disclaimers because he didn't do even the most basic research. (In "The Terminal Man," for example, he suggested that people with epilepsy fly into murderous rages, rather than seizures.) He's not openminded, he's halfwitted and sloppy. Eh, whattaya expect from a Nader Nad?

Bush assembled his own team of scientists to study global warming; this hand-picked-by-the-GOP group determined:

(1) Rapid climate change is real;
(2) It is a threat to humanity;
(3) It is caused by pollution;
(4) It will take decades to BEGIN to reverse.

Ah, but Dittoheads don't want to remember that--so they don't. They just poke their heads back up inside their flatulent little asses, and continue moaning and whining about how Clinton lied about sex (forcing poor Rush Limbaugh to become a pill-popping junkie-boy and crass hypocrite).

*cackle*

Whoa, lookit that--the northeastern US is getting its ass kicked by Mother Nature--again!! But I'm sure it's nothing, because "global warming is just a liberal fantasy." ...Right?

(The UK Guardian has one article about this available online; there are more. Pop "bush scientists global warming" into Google for a link. I mean, if you're not afraid it will contradict your safe, soothing, UncaDave-grade smug redneck ignorance.)

Al Gore likes Futurama.
I'm not American, so it doesn't really bother me who the President is. They're all corrupt.
If Gore had won, Futurama might have had a chance.

Hence, I wish Al Gore had won.

"Tipper Gore = censorship" is about as true as "Al Gore said he invented the Internet." That is, not true at all.

Acting on behalf of concerned parents, Tipper Gore called for printed lyrics, plain outer covers, and parental-advisory labels on music CDs which have all since become the norm. That isn't censorship, any more than the wrappers hiding the boob-shots on the covers of Maxim or Hustler in your local bookstore. Ask Mommy why they do that.

Some people repeat every rumor they hear or read as fact; they might as well be parrots, the parrots have no idea what the heck they're talking about either.

"Michael Crichton? Har! Most of his early books--I don't bother with the later ones--have disclaimers because he didn't do even the most basic research. (In "The Terminal Man," for example, he suggested that people with epilepsy fly into murderous rages, rather than seizures.) He's not openminded, he's halfwitted and sloppy. Eh, whattaya expect from a Nader Nad?"

So... you didn't actually, um, read the speeches we're talking about, huh? No where in any of them does he suggest we stop showing concern for the enviroment. His main gripe with the enviromental movement is that it's continually hijacked for political ends. Notice how you never hear the enviromentalits (outside of fee market enviromental groups like PERC) denounce polluting by socialist or third-world countries (aside from banning the use of DDT)? No hidden agenda there right? Can you name me one cause championed by the enviromental movement that isn't a direct assault on free-market capitalism?

What makes you left-wingers think that when Democrats scare the public with economic concerns, it's any differen than when Republicans scare people with terrorism concerns? After all, the ban on DDT killed more people in third-world countries than the war in Iraq. Both parties blow legitiamte concerns out of proportian to increase their own power. This is how government has worked through out history.
But... your guys wouldn't lie, right? Because their your guys?

Personally, I like it when Futurama encourages enviromentalism. I don't like it when government encourages enviromentlaism at gun point (which, when you boil it down, every act of government is forced by gun point).

"Whoa, lookit that--the northeastern US is getting its ass kicked by Mother Nature--again!! But I'm sure it's nothing, because "global warming is just a liberal fantasy." ...Right?

I'd hardly call people like you "liberal". Tht word, unfortunately, has been batardized for all eternity. Newsflash: Mother nature has been kicking our ass since the dawn of time. Only since the establishment of civilization have we actually acquired the luxury to even worry about the enviroment. Of course, according to people like you, civilization is what destroys the enviroment.

"(The UK Guardian has one article about this available online; there are more. Pop "bush scientists global warming" into Google for a link. I mean, if you're not afraid it will contradict your safe, soothing, UncaDave-grade smug redneck ignorance.)"

No, I'm not afraid to read opposing view points. I consider myself an enviromentalist, even though I'm not an eco-fascist like Gore. Did you even bother to read the Crichton speeches before you denounced him for making something up in a work of fiction?

I'd take Al Gore more seriously on pollution if I saw him riding bicycles, instead of armor-plated limousines.

I'd take Al Gore more seriously on overpopulation if he and Tipper didn't make more babies than a family of rabbits.

You might want to read up on Paul Ehrlich, and maybe Chicken Little while you're at it.

Bonus points: What U.S. president gave us the EPA?
Hint: He has a giant robot body (or, will someday).

BLAME CANADA!

What drives me crazy in addition is how some people stated above "If it Al Gore were president, there'd be no war in Iraq!" You seriously think Gore would be any better? Look at Clinton, for crying out loud. He was busy dropping bombs over Serbia, killing tons of civilians (yeah, I know, NATO was involved, too, but it was mostly the US doing the bombing). Supposedly it was because Melosevic was killing all those Kosovars, but we all know it was to distract from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. And since people don't seem to accept the fact that Saddam was killing all those Kurds as a reason for going to war, I can't quite comprehend why all these Clinton/Gore supporters are jumping onto Bush for attacking Iraq and neglecting to remember what Clinton/Gore did in Serbia.

You know, saying there's no global warming because it was 3 degrees in Massachusetts a day ago is like saying there are no poor people because Bill Gates has $33.67 billion dollars.

If you want a slogan: "The extremes don't disprove the mean."

It's really simple: Crichton's sloppy research for his fiction suggests an equal distaste for facts in his other work.

Leah, Clinton dropped by Serbia recently and was met by the sort of huge cheering crowds that Bush wishes he could get in Iraq. And he didn't even have to dress up in a flight suit with a packed crotch.

"Distract from the Monica Lewinsky scandal?" Ha ha ha! Well, we know everything we need to know about you right there, don't we? Dittohead Parrot.

AFTER Saddam slaughtered countless Kurds, Donald Rumsfeld shook his hand and helped him obtain weapons of mass destruction--in the hopes that Saddam would use them on Iran. This "we bombed Iraqi citizens to liberate them" nonsense is transparently false, and if Bush had told the American people that we were going to sacrifice 500-1000 American lives to "liberate" a people whom most Republicans have a variety of racial slurs to describe, he'd would've been locked away. Try again.

HA HA HA!!! You guys are too much!

A bunch of frustrated political know-it-alls pointlessly blasting one another for no apparent good reason. No wonder why so many people refuse to get politically involved. Those guys are constantly complaining and arguing and that never leads anywhere.

What was the subject again? Oh yeah, Al Gore showing a clip from Futurama during his speech on global warming... That's all?? Gee! people, please grow up.

#38 what r u doin on a futurama fansite then

What do you mean #39, what am I doing here? Maybe I'm here because I'm a fan of futurama what do you think?

U can be a fan of Futurama and not care about politics, futuramaMAD

Lol... got to love the part where Mr. Sunbeam gets beaten up!

I thought Al Gore was funny in those Futurama episodes but not that funny. Otherwise, he pretty much reinforced my beliefs of him -- he's a boorish turd.

The world would be a different place if he was president alright. We'd be cowering in our little corner of the world crying like sissy-assed little girls and raising our taxes to pay the terrorists not to attack us anymore.

BrainSluggo: So, you didn't read the speeches? That's all I wanted to hear you say. The point that the Crichton speeches we're talking were trying to make is that we need to demand better and unbiased information. I imagine you would be as much in favor of that as Crichton is. You seem to be very hostile towards what Crichton has to say, but you give no indication that you have any desire to read it for yourself. Politicians in general (and Gore specifically) are not scientists. They're more like salesmen. Gore's not interested in proving the existence of global warming, he's interested in selling the concept of global warming to the majority of Americans.

Over the last few decades environmentalists (in particular, environmentalist guru Paul Ehrlich, who I mentioned earlier) have made apocalyptic claim after apocalyptic claim, and they have never come true. Paul Ehrlich famously made a bet with another scientist where they picked out several resources, and bet on weather they would increase or decrease in value (because of Ehrlich's claim that resources would become more scarce) and the loser paid the difference. Ehrlich even got to pick which resources, and he still lost the bet on every resource chosen. Other eco-prophecies over the last few decades included massive starvation brought on by vast overpopulation by the 1980's and, believe it or not, world-wide global cooling(brought on by industrialized man, of course). The environmentalists also gave us CAFE standards for automobiles, which economists (you can find this through google, or on the site for perc.org) have shown to cause an increase in automobile accidents/deaths. I also mentioned the ban on DDT (google "people killed by DDT ban") which has caused at least a few million deaths from malaria(some estimates say it's caused up to 200 million deaths, which makes Hitler's genocide look insignificant by comparison) in undeveloped nations. So, forgive me for being a skeptic on global warming.

You need to stop treating global warming as if it's already proven, and off the table for debate. According to my dictionary, your blanket dismissal of dissenting arguments would make you a *gasp* conservative. If you want to direct me towards scientists who argue that global warming is happening, and indeed caused by man, feel free to e-mail me a link (Thedecoy2@aol.com). I'd prefer if you point me to their research, and not to their Ph.Ds.

Nothing brings out political activism like an election year...

Nobody, to include politicians, can be right all the time. I dunno that global warming (based on greenhouse gasses, and not environmental cyclical change) is real or not. Sure the Ross ice shelf has embarked on a world tour. But I can still get food at low, low prices. The war in Iraq was a good thing. How can I say that a war was good? Just look at the mass graves and torture victims that have been seen and heard. The ends justified the reasons. Certainly anyone who wishes to contend this point should first reference any mass graves or torture victims found within the United States, having been perpetrated by the government. Did Al Gore publicly state that he would not have invaded Afganistan? Truthfully, I cannot be certain that he has. I am pretty sure though, that the status quo concerning Iraq would be in place were he president.

Futurama is satire in its finest. They poke fun at counter-culture stereotypes (or left wing liberals) and blue-blood good-ol boys (right wing conservatives). To say all other points are invalid for debate because your own stance is "most right" is facism.

How the hell did the war in Iraq get brought into this?